Lord of the Rings discussion
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Poster:
Oogyboogawa
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2007/04/17 19:13:58 PM
I wasn't sure if it would be fair for me to answer that question since I had just read that part not too long ago.
If I remember right, Bilbo was 111(eleventy-one) and Frodo was 33. He disappeared using the ring while Gandalf added a puff of smoke. I believe the firework was a dragon flying out of a mountain and flying overhead, in memory of Bilbo's adventures in The Hobbit.
I don't normally remember details too well, but it hasn't been too long since I read that part.
Thanks for the kind words :)
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If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
If I remember right, Bilbo was 111(eleventy-one) and Frodo was 33. He disappeared using the ring while Gandalf added a puff of smoke. I believe the firework was a dragon flying out of a mountain and flying overhead, in memory of Bilbo's adventures in The Hobbit.
I don't normally remember details too well, but it hasn't been too long since I read that part.
Thanks for the kind words :)
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If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
Poster:
Oogyboogawa
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2007/04/17 19:14:59 PM
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Poster:
Himura
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2007/04/17 19:38:11 PM
More questions shall come at soon then when I have the time to think about them. I also need to get the books really soon so I can find some puzzlers but I use the memory of the books from reading them 14 times to think of some good questions. Expect some hard ones!
Poster:
LES
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2007/04/17 22:17:39 PM
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Oogy how could I forget eleventy one -- I loved that. Thanks for the reminder, see -- this is a great discussion. I knew he used the ring, the puff of smoke was to cover that. Of course you should answer, that makes it more fun. I would just have to pick up my book and look it up. I think I will get that book now while I am thinking of it. Yes the dragon. From the book Bilbo was writing There and Back Again. That is the name isn't it ? I am not good at all with details --- never have been.
OK Himura -- I am getting the book out now.
How is this for forgetting details -- I have been saying that I was 62 for all this past year. My birthday is the month of June, and I mentioned to HR that I would be 63 and he said NO Lynn, you will be 62 --- oh no --- I forgot ! Now I have to be 62 again -- he was right. Yes I do mean my birthday is the MONTH of June. I really like my birthday !
I have to go get that book now.
OK Himura -- I am getting the book out now.
How is this for forgetting details -- I have been saying that I was 62 for all this past year. My birthday is the month of June, and I mentioned to HR that I would be 63 and he said NO Lynn, you will be 62 --- oh no --- I forgot ! Now I have to be 62 again -- he was right. Yes I do mean my birthday is the MONTH of June. I really like my birthday !
I have to go get that book now.
Poster:
LES
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2007/04/18 00:35:15 AM
I really do not know where to put this so I chose here --- it is sort of on topic :)
The Children of Hurin, J.R.R. Tolkien
After three long decades: a new release by legendary author J.R.R. Tolkien. In The Children of Hurin, fans can return once more to Tolkien's realm of dragons, elves and orcs - a world that has enchanted readers for generations.
I am rather excited and shall continue to check this out, what do any of you know about this ? Perhaps a
recently discovered work that has been released ?
The Children of Hurin, J.R.R. Tolkien
After three long decades: a new release by legendary author J.R.R. Tolkien. In The Children of Hurin, fans can return once more to Tolkien's realm of dragons, elves and orcs - a world that has enchanted readers for generations.
I am rather excited and shall continue to check this out, what do any of you know about this ? Perhaps a
recently discovered work that has been released ?
Poster:
LES
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2007/04/18 00:40:33 AM
Here is more.
A novel by
J R R Tolkien
The Children of Húrin, begun in 1918, was one of three "Great Tales" J.R.R. Tolkien worked on throughout his life, though he never realized his ambition to see it published. Though familiar to many fans from extracts and references within other Tolkien books, it has long been assumed that the story would forever remain an "unfinished tale." Now reconstructed by Christopher Tolkien, painstakingly editing together the complete work from his father�s many drafts, this book is the culmination of a tireless thirty-year endeavor by him to bring J.R.R. Tolkien�s vast body of unpublished work to a wide audience.
Christopher Tolkien said: "It has seemed to me for a long time that there was a good case for presenting my father�s long version of the legend of The Children of Húrin as an independent work, between its own covers, with a minimum of editorial presence, and above all in continuous narrative without gaps or interruptions, if this could be done without distortion or invention, despite the unfinished state in which he left some parts of it."
Having drawn the distinctive maps for the original The Lord of the Rings more than fifty years ago, Christopher has also created a detailed new map for this book. In addition, it will include a jacket and color paintings by Alan Lee, illustrator of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings Centenary Edition and Oscar®-winning designer of the film trilogy.
A novel by
J R R Tolkien
The Children of Húrin, begun in 1918, was one of three "Great Tales" J.R.R. Tolkien worked on throughout his life, though he never realized his ambition to see it published. Though familiar to many fans from extracts and references within other Tolkien books, it has long been assumed that the story would forever remain an "unfinished tale." Now reconstructed by Christopher Tolkien, painstakingly editing together the complete work from his father�s many drafts, this book is the culmination of a tireless thirty-year endeavor by him to bring J.R.R. Tolkien�s vast body of unpublished work to a wide audience.
Christopher Tolkien said: "It has seemed to me for a long time that there was a good case for presenting my father�s long version of the legend of The Children of Húrin as an independent work, between its own covers, with a minimum of editorial presence, and above all in continuous narrative without gaps or interruptions, if this could be done without distortion or invention, despite the unfinished state in which he left some parts of it."
Having drawn the distinctive maps for the original The Lord of the Rings more than fifty years ago, Christopher has also created a detailed new map for this book. In addition, it will include a jacket and color paintings by Alan Lee, illustrator of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings Centenary Edition and Oscar®-winning designer of the film trilogy.
Poster:
LES
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2007/04/18 00:47:25 AM
a review for the curious LOTR fan, April 11, 2007
Reviewer: Eric Kruger "tancred2" (Ithaca, NY) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)
Taking place in the distant past of the Middle Earth most people know from the "Lord of the Rings," the "Children of Hurin" is a poignantly beautiful gem from JRR Tolkien's literary world. One of the author's greatest achievements was the world of Middle Earth itself, which contained endless layers of history and backstory that informed the origin and actions of its characters. What can be easy to miss in reading LOTR is that Middle Earth is a desolate shadow of what it used to be, before time and the mistakes of foolish pride wore down the greatness of Elves and Men to almost nothing. This book takes place in a part of Middle Earth that was later destroyed, to be remembered only in the sad songs and anecdotes that pop up here and there in the background of LOTR. This and the book's maps may initially confuse fans of LOTR, but the journey into unfamiliar territory is more than worth it: "The Children of Hurin" is great all by itself, but will do a lot to help you understand the world of LOTR in general. Fans who have trouble with the drier, historical tone of the "Silmarillion" might be better served with this fleshed-out piece of its story. If you have ever wondered why the Elves are such a small, sad, and reclusive bunch in LOTR, you'll see a bit of the answer here, and did you know the great Sauron was once just a servant of the true and original Dark Enemy? You'll meet the dark god Melkor here, and understand why Sauron was just carrying on a legacy. Be prepared also for the diabolical Father of Dragons, Glaurung. If you enjoyed the combination of guile and physical might that Smaug brought to the table, you'll get more than you bargained for from this dragon.
"Children of Hurin" may also surprise fans that are used to the "plain Hobbit sense" and sober steadfastness of more well-known Tolkien protagonists. The central character, Turin, is in many senses the complete opposite of a Hobbit: a great and proud warrior, born for leadership, but doomed to make poor, rash decisions in the heat of emotion. You might be reminded a bit of Boromir, and rightly so. Turin struggles with moral choices and his pride often gets the better of him. Whereas you could trust the Bagginses to use logic, see the big picture, and keep their heads cool enough to defeat despair... or even the cunning wits and words of a dragon... you'll be horrified to see Turin falter. He's the essence of a tragic hero, and although he'll frustrate you, you might see more of yourself in him than in the nearly-unbreakable Hobbits.
It's altogether a different flavor from LOTR or the Hobbit, but it's no less great, and anyone interested in the world of Middle Earth should give it a go.
That is from just a persons review on Amazon.com
That's it -- I am done now -- what do you all think -- have you heard about this one ?
Reviewer: Eric Kruger "tancred2" (Ithaca, NY) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)
Taking place in the distant past of the Middle Earth most people know from the "Lord of the Rings," the "Children of Hurin" is a poignantly beautiful gem from JRR Tolkien's literary world. One of the author's greatest achievements was the world of Middle Earth itself, which contained endless layers of history and backstory that informed the origin and actions of its characters. What can be easy to miss in reading LOTR is that Middle Earth is a desolate shadow of what it used to be, before time and the mistakes of foolish pride wore down the greatness of Elves and Men to almost nothing. This book takes place in a part of Middle Earth that was later destroyed, to be remembered only in the sad songs and anecdotes that pop up here and there in the background of LOTR. This and the book's maps may initially confuse fans of LOTR, but the journey into unfamiliar territory is more than worth it: "The Children of Hurin" is great all by itself, but will do a lot to help you understand the world of LOTR in general. Fans who have trouble with the drier, historical tone of the "Silmarillion" might be better served with this fleshed-out piece of its story. If you have ever wondered why the Elves are such a small, sad, and reclusive bunch in LOTR, you'll see a bit of the answer here, and did you know the great Sauron was once just a servant of the true and original Dark Enemy? You'll meet the dark god Melkor here, and understand why Sauron was just carrying on a legacy. Be prepared also for the diabolical Father of Dragons, Glaurung. If you enjoyed the combination of guile and physical might that Smaug brought to the table, you'll get more than you bargained for from this dragon.
"Children of Hurin" may also surprise fans that are used to the "plain Hobbit sense" and sober steadfastness of more well-known Tolkien protagonists. The central character, Turin, is in many senses the complete opposite of a Hobbit: a great and proud warrior, born for leadership, but doomed to make poor, rash decisions in the heat of emotion. You might be reminded a bit of Boromir, and rightly so. Turin struggles with moral choices and his pride often gets the better of him. Whereas you could trust the Bagginses to use logic, see the big picture, and keep their heads cool enough to defeat despair... or even the cunning wits and words of a dragon... you'll be horrified to see Turin falter. He's the essence of a tragic hero, and although he'll frustrate you, you might see more of yourself in him than in the nearly-unbreakable Hobbits.
It's altogether a different flavor from LOTR or the Hobbit, but it's no less great, and anyone interested in the world of Middle Earth should give it a go.
That is from just a persons review on Amazon.com
That's it -- I am done now -- what do you all think -- have you heard about this one ?
Poster:
Himura
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2007/04/18 19:26:29 PM
It sounds Like I need to find out where to get....:)
Poster:
Himura
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2007/04/18 23:36:16 PM
Expect some more questions tomorrow....Sorry I am not posting much. I am trying to learn more website stuff which is including Javascript and eventually xml etc...it is quite time consuming and javascript alone is going to take awhile. I will try to keep up to date on everything and attempt to post regularily on the LotR and Narnia topics. If you have anything me to post any specific questions, just let me know.
Poster:
LES
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2007/04/19 01:24:48 AM
I understand completely, I miss you when you are not around but you are using your time admirably.
Do post when you can -- and I will look forward to your questions.
Do post when you can -- and I will look forward to your questions.